Monday 21 September 2009


Some of you may remember a while back when I found an article by Peter Oborne in the Daily Mail which informed us that we were going to receive some unexpected help from Germany as they had referred the Lisbon Treaty back to their Constitutional Court. They have still not managed to amend the treaty to their satisfaction and, as we all know, whatever amendments they make in order to keep the sovereign powers that they do not wish to relinquish to the EU will be null and void as soon as the Treaty has been ratified.

Now we are going to get even more help from the Czech Republic as you can see in the following report from The Times. Many thanks to Quiet Man for pointing me in the right direction - he's rather made my day.

Czech Republic 'planning to delay signing Lisbon treaty'

EU leaders are said to be furious that the Czech Republic is planning to delay signing the Lisbon treaty for up to six months even if the Irish vote "yes" in their referendum next month.

The country might even try to delay it until after the British general election campaign when a Tory victory would see the question put to voters by David Cameron.

Nicolas Sarkozy, who helped to draw up the treaty after the French and Dutch voted against its predecessor, the EU Constitution, has warned Prague that it faces "consequences" if it does not swiftly follow an Irish "yes" with its own ratification.

The outburst followed a private warning from Jan Fischer, the Czech caretaker Prime Minister, to his EU counterparts over dinner at their summit in Brussels last Thursday, it has emerged.

Mr Fischer said that Václav Klaus, the country's unpredictable President, was planning to have a group of loyal senators in the Czech Upper House refer the treaty back to the country's constitutional court for a second time, which could delay ratification for between three and six months.

This would mean that the treaty could still be unratified going into the British general election campaign, expected next April or May. Mr Cameron has pledged that, if the document remained a live issue, even though Britain has completed its own ratification, he would call a referendum on it. This prospect horrifies most EU leaders, given the strong vein of Euroscepticism in Britain.

Tensions are already running high among EU leaders over whether the Irish will vote in favour of the treaty on October 2 after a close-run referendum campaign. They are desperate that the momentum of a "yes" is not lost on the eurosceptic Czech and Polish presidents, the final two signatures required for EU ratification.

The treaty further erodes national powers to veto EU decisions, and a Tory government would campaign against it. President Klaus is understood to have told allies that he wants to wait if possible to see if Mr Cameron wins the next election.

Speaking after last Thursday's dinner, Mr Sarkozy said: "I stated clearly that if the Irish say 'yes', there is no question that we will accept to stay in a no-man’s land with a Europe that does not have the institutions to cope with the crisis,” he said.

Asked about what could be done to persuade President Klaus to sign, he added: "It will be necessary to draw the consequences — but those will be the subject of another meeting."

Mr Fischer is acting as caretaker Prime Minister after the Government of Mirek Topolánek fell in the summer and while fresh elections are organised. He has warned privately that he has little control over the country's headstrong President. Speaking to Czech journalists after last week's summit, he admitted: "It is certainly a fact that several government leaders perceive the ratification process in the Czech Republic with a degree of nervousness."

Notice the same old threats from Sarkozy about "consequences" just as the people of Ireland were told if they vote "NO"!! Cameron may yet have to grow a set and give us our referendum as all three parties promised us they would in their 2005 election manifestos - another fucking lie.

President Klaus and the Czech Republic may yet turn the tide on the EU monster and buy us enough time for our own resounding "NO" vote. Then Cameron must ensure that the EU is dead in the water once and for all!

I don't know about you but this is the best news I've read on the subject for some time.

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Tarquin said...

I think it helps to remember that we are not the only people against this - you only have to look at the Dutch and the French votes to see that

But people often think this is a British vs European thing - it's not, it's politicians vs the people, in a lot of countries, and I have hope that if it's not us or the Irish who kill this, it'll be the Czechs or Germans

have hope!

Anonymous said...

Very gratifying news! Also gratifying is that the EU have resorted to an attempt to buy votes in Ireland as reported here. That cynical manoeuvre should backfire on them nicely!

Anonymous said...

UKIP MEP William, Earl of Dartmouth has written to Klaus in support.

I doubt if Cameron can dodge this issue. Whether or not the Irish vote No, the Lisbon Treaty issue will take on a life of its own. After all, this is the very last chance we'll get to free ourselves from the EU's Orwellian grip without serious civil unrest.

Sarkozy will fight this all the way - I'd imagine he has designs on a future EU presidency.

Fortunately, Klaus has painful memories (as does the Czech public) of the dead hand of totalitarian government.

Cameron, beware! Ignore the public's wishes at your peril!

Barking Spider said...

Absolutely, Tarquin, this is about our freedom from a totalitarian state that no-one wants, except the ruling elite and raving mad, foaming-at-the-mouth socialists. You know how Lefties distort the intended meaning of everything to suit their own twisted agenda.

Barking Spider said...

That is very interesting, Edgar, the Irish will not like such blatant bribery at all! The opinion polls, according to that article, are at exactly the same point as they were just before the first "no" vote. Barroso may have delivered one insult too many - it's interesting that he was warned to stay away from Ireland but couldn't leave it alone.

Barking Spider said...

Thanks for that pointer, Fausty, I hope this is continually giving Cameron a headache. I don't think he can afford to duck the issue for much longer either, regardless of the Irish vote, which may just be turning towards "no" again.
Declan Ganley is now back on the scene having so successfully campaigned for the "no" vote last year.
I agree with you entirely about that little weasel shit Sarkozy - he's as honest as Mandelson!
I just hope that Klaus can hold out for long enough.

Anonymous said...

There are many anti-EU voices out there being stifled. The referendum allows them to be heard.

Anonymous said...

Here we go Mr Spider, This is what the so called experts thought one day before the Irish referendum of June 2008. It's not over until the fat lady sings, or the votes have been counted.

Mind you, they could have saved themselves a lot of trouble by NOT electing an incompetent, self righteous, useless, tetchy, pill popping, arrogant, one eyed son of a preacher man, who could have done all of their thinking for them. Or am I stretching into the realms of unbelievable fantasy with that particular thesis?

Barking Spider said...

Absolutely, Nickie, that's exactly why Brown denied us a referendum in the UK.

Barking Spider said...

It's turning around again, D&C, the latest poll in today's Irish Sun has the "no" vote at 59% and the "yes" vote at 41% so it would appear that a lot of people either lied or said they were undecided in earlier polls. The bastards in the EU, and probably Cameron, too, must now be shitting bricks!